would either of you favor a mix of increased taxes, or at least retain the taxes on people earning over a quarter of a million dollars per year with budget cuts and rick -- as opposed to reinstituting the budget tax cuts from before? >> yes, and i have said in my thought from from the beginning that we have to go back and ensure that we do take that. we are facing a financial cliff. the sequestration that could happen could devastate all of us. as for me, proposed a $2.7 trillion deficit reduction. $1.2 trillion came out of the largest ceos of our country who said we could do better on technology. that is out of my background. that is the experience that we need. that is what mitt romney needs if he is going to be president. that is the experience needed to reduce the deficit. >> i've only been in the u.s. senate for 36 years, but time and again when republicans have gone along with democrats to , and in favor of have see some reduction of deficit, i have seen taxes go up and up. that is how they say -- stay in power, by spending more money and saying they are being compassionate with y